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    Trion Worlds Disbands Player's Guild to Give the Name to Another Guild?

    Shu
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    Post by Shu Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:59 pm

    shu:saw this from mmo site and post here for u guys to read.basically i think its funny how the author say trion was doing great customer support by removing one guild name and giving it away to another guild.pretty sure nothing will be done if the guild that requested name to be given to them was a small guild.the gm pretty much did this so the commotion in their forum will stop and due to the other guild being a big guild with large numbers of players.in almost most cases guild name will be first come first serve,it does not matter if the first person is registering the name out of grieving or not.this kinna make me feel trion gm have some ties with the bigger guild so is helping them instead of giving the normal answer of first come first serve,corrupted or mishandled i am not sure but it sure its funny the way they handle it lol ^^

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    Trion Worlds Disbands Player's Guild to Give the Name to Another Guild? Michael_fuchsTrion Worlds Disbands Player's Guild to Give the Name to Another Player?
    By Michael Fuchs
    Michael
    Fuchs has been playing MMOs for over 8 years. He has a strong passion
    for the competitive side of video games. Besides video games, his
    passions include reading, writing, and roleplaying. He currently attends
    the University of Wisconsin - Waukesha for a degree in Communications.

    Recently RIFT, the MMORPG by Trion Worlds, was released on March 1st.
    Overall, the launch was incredibly successful. However, the launch day
    was not without drama. No, there weren't any game breaking bugs or
    server issues (in fact, I've only ever encountered one issue in the game
    and a GM fixed the situation within 5 minutes.) On the night of
    February 28th, a player on the Trion forums by the name of "nacus" posted the following message:

    Here is the situation. Our guild shares a name with another much
    larger guild, it has been like this for many years, and who is to say
    who started out first?
    Before launch day the much larger guild that shares our name chose to
    go to one of the "top" PVP servers. We saw this and choose to go to
    Lotham. Head start comes around and we hustle and get the name within
    the first hour of the server starting.
    The next day, the other guild decided that que times were to long on
    the server they chose so they moved over to our server. (I am sure they
    had no idea who we are or where were). They protested to a GM that we
    stole the name, and guess what? The GM disbanded out guild and gave it
    to them!! Even though we can show that we have used it in other games,
    and can show they posted that they were not even going to be on our
    server. Pretty lame if you ask me.
    I guess it shows that GM's in this game will favor the larger guilds.

    Trion Worlds Disbands Player's Guild to Give the Name to Another Guild? Rift1

    The situation that he is talking about happened on the
    Lotham server. He had created a guild called the Goon Squad, and then
    later, the owners of Goon Squad (which is a guild that spans multiple
    games and participated in the RIFT beta) requested to have their name
    back from a GM. If you looked at the hyperlink included, you'll see that
    many people went in support of this person. Comments included raging at
    Trion, saying that "nacus" should get his guild name back, and a few
    threats to Trion and the guild that took the name back as well.

    Originally, I was also on "nacus" side, and I requested
    that he send me additional information about this case so that we could
    post something up for all of you to read. I first received the following
    email which included their ticket information (Please note that they
    are in reverse order, with the latest email first):

    Response Via Email (GM Giant) 02/25/2011 11:15 PM
    Hello Pat!
    Thank you for contacting us regarding Rift.
    After some investigation the decision was made to allow Goon Squad
    the use of their guild name. I do apologize that you had not yet been
    notified of this decision. I have refunded you the 1 Platinum that you
    paid for the guild charter to this character.
    If you have any additional questions or concerns then please don't
    hesitate to let us know. Thank you for your continued support of Trion
    Worlds and for playing Rift. Your reference number for this question is
    110225-003981
    Sincerely,
    GM Giant
    Manager - In-Game Support
    Trion Worlds Inc.





    Discussion Thread

    Response Via Email (GM Giant) 02/27/2011 08:08 PM
    Hello Pat!
    As I mentioned previously, the actions taken are final, will not be
    reversed, and cannot be appealed. Any further communications from you in
    regards to this issue will be closed without a reply.
    If you have any additional questions or concerns then please don't
    hesitate to let us know. Thank you for your continued support of Trion
    Worlds and for playing Rift. Your reference number for this question is
    110225-004005
    Sincerely,
    GM Giant
    Manager - In-Game Support
    Trion Worlds Inc.
    Response Via Email (GM Archangel) 02/27/2011 07:54 AM
    Issue:This client has proof concerning that their Guild Name was changed and would like to appeal their case
    Troubleshooting Steps Taken:
    Resolution:
    Conversation from RAT:
    Response Via Email (GM Archangel) 02/27/2011 07:40 AM
    Hello Clericbert!
    Thank you for contacting us regarding Rift.
    Once a guild has been made the only way to change the name of they
    are using is them to leave the guild and create a new one. I do
    apologize about the inconvenience, but unless you can provide any proof
    of them causing any violations, we are not entitled to change their name
    or transfer to others.
    If you have any additional questions or concerns then please don't
    hesitate to let us know. Thank you for your continued support of Trion
    Worlds and for playing Rift. Your reference number for this question is
    110225-004005
    Sincerely,
    GM Archangel
    Game Master
    Trion Worlds Inc.

    Trion Worlds Disbands Player's Guild to Give the Name to Another Guild? Rift2

    The tickets did indeed seem to say that GM Giant was
    abusing his powers and not listening to their case. However, a few
    minutes later, I received the following email from "nacus":

    Michael,
    First me let say we are still trying to work with Trion to get this
    resolved, we are not getting anywhere yet. But here is the story.
    Yes the name is Goon Squad. To be honest we had never really heard of
    them in all our MMO days. It is a stupid name, I agree, but its our
    stupid name. We started to use it all the way back in UO and have used
    it on and off ever since. We do not are always very small, we are a RL
    group of friends, and do bring in other RL friends.
    One poster in the monster thread brought up even more evidence for
    our case. Quite sometime ago I did post "Where is Goon Squad going on
    launch" this was done on our part to make sure we would not be on the
    same server as them. And then like I said in the OP we found out they
    were going to Blaircliff and we choose to go to Lotham.
    I find it funny in the OP that my original post, that some people are
    using this as to say that we were intentionally trying to steal the
    name. The way I see it is, one we are ultra intelligent psychic game
    nerds that foresaw Goon Squad would have such a bad time on the server
    they publicly stated they were going to, that in time they would
    eventually choose to come to our server. At which point we would have
    stolen the name, and well, I am not sure what we would do.
    Or it shows that we have attempted to avoid the other Goon Squad and
    go on our way. I like the first idea of making it sound like we are evil
    geniuses, but well, yeah we are just not quite at that IQ level.
    So there you have the story, and the outcome is still in the air.
    Talk to you soon,
    Ken

    While the email made me a bit more sympathetic to their
    case, I found it interesting that he stated that he asked the Goon Squad
    where they were going upon launch. I checked his past posts on the
    forum, and, lo and behold, there was no such thing. The closest thread I
    could come up was this one where a member states:

    There were certainly a good number of them on Lotham during the last beta. no idea about OB or release.

    Trion Worlds Disbands Player's Guild to Give the Name to Another Guild? Rift3

    Yikes. When I read that, I became suspicious of the
    whole story. It became clear that "nacus" probably knew which server
    that the Goon Squad was going on. To double check this fact, I made a
    phone call to Katie Uhlman, the Director of Corporate Communications
    & Community at Trion Worlds. She was incredibly helpful in solving
    this case, even though it was a busy launch day. She confirmed what I
    had discovered. "nasus" went to the Lotham server, created the guild
    Goon Squad, and then was holding the name with a few low leveled
    characters to grief the real Goon Squad on their main server. "nasus"
    was refunded his 1 platinum, even though he was griefing this guild.
    However, this not being enough for him, he went to their forums to whine
    about it and to try and breed hate against Trion Worlds on their
    release day. You think that the forum whining would have been enough for
    him, however, he also decided to make multiple phone calls to support
    and other employees at Trion that were borderline harassment. Trion
    Worlds released the following official statement about the case:

    This situation was thoroughly investigated by the head of our CS
    department. After reviewing all information coming from various
    individuals, guilds and forum posts on a number of sites, a
    determination was made in regards to who should rightfully have the
    guild name. We have again reviewed the circumstances and details, and we
    stand by our decision.

    Trion Worlds Disbands Player's Guild to Give the Name to Another Guild? Rift4

    Trion Worlds is known for their excellent customer
    support, so I can see why someone would try to hurt this image – as it
    would directly impact the sales of RIFT on its launch day. However, due
    to the combined efforts, the situation has been contained and the
    griefers have been found out. Trion Worlds and MMOSite: 1 Griefers: 0
    Snow
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    Post by Snow Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:58 pm

    Too long to read o_0
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    Post by atreides6874 Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:16 am

    Long posts are funny to read from time to time, but that greatly depends on my mood at the time.

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